Debating A Heavy Critic Of Trump’s Immigration And Deportation Plans

I had the opportunity to have a discussion and debate with David Bier, who is the Director of Immigration Studies at the CATO Institute, about President Donald Trump’s immigration and deportation policies.

For those who are unfamiliar with Bier, he has been a constant critic of how Trump has used the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. While he does not want to abolish ICE or not have any borders, like Democratic Socialists, he wants to have more pathways for immigrants to enter the U.S. legally and does not believe in mass deportations.

Bier has testified many times to Congress as a witness for the Democrats during Trump’s second term, leading to some robust back and forth between him and Republicans.

I asked him about his statements against Trump’s policies, such as:

David J. Bier@David_J_Bier

The higher the number, the worse of an idea mass deportation becomes. More costly and invasive to our freedoms

MigrationPolicy Inst @MigrationPolicy

New MPI estimates: 15.8 million unauthorized immigrants lived in the U.S. as of mid-2024—up from roughly 11 million throughout the 2010s Our new analysis explains the drivers, changing origins & what the future trends might be https://t.co/qFeKWVoEFX

7:24 PM · Jul 30, 2026 · 312K Views

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David J. Bier@David_J_Bier

We need a legal immigration plan to prevent another illegal immigration crisis. Will Democrats listen this time?

Julio Rosas @Julio_Rosas11

NEW: Migrants in Mexico told me they are glad Democrats have worked to defund DHS/ICE and they are waiting for Trump to not be president so they can enter the U.S. "But that is okay, they should remove [DHS funding]." "Once he leaves, we will head north. Why not?" WATCH:

4:27 PM · Jun 24, 2026 · 5.87K Views

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